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Listening to our body and its messages help us navigate our lives towards generative and meaningful days. Through our podcast ‘Embodied People’ we offer somatic practices to support you in remembering and living as fully and dynamically as possible through your flesh. Hosted by somatic educators and Laban/Bartenieff movement analysts Sarah Donohue and Colleen Wahl. Music by Nate Anderson. Image and design by Erin Law.
Listening to our body and its messages help us navigate our lives towards generative and meaningful days. Through our podcast ‘Embodied People’ we offer somatic practices to support you in remembering and living as fully and dynamically as possible through your flesh. Hosted by somatic educators and Laban/Bartenieff movement analysts Sarah Donohue and Colleen Wahl. Music by Nate Anderson. Image and design by Erin Law.
Episodes

Saturday Mar 28, 2026
Season 7, Episode 6: I'm Proud of my Relationship to my Body with Ilgaz Casey
Saturday Mar 28, 2026
Saturday Mar 28, 2026
Come with Colleen and Ilgaz as they discuss Ilgaz's progressively deeper and richer relationship with her body - the kind of relationship we want as we mature into ourselves. And listen in as together they connect to movement as a source for wisdom for what is next for Ilgaz.
Bio for Ilgaz: Ilgaz Ulusoy Casey has been working in theatre since 2006, specifically focusing on movement and voice through the actor's body. She had participated in several international theater projects throughout Europe before moving to the U.S. where she leads theatre and movement based workshops for children and adults. Ilgaz holds a master's degree in Cultural Studies (2014) and is a Certified Laban/Bartenieff Movement Analyst (2020).
Find Ilgaz on substack here
And in IG here
Embodied People is co-hosted by Sarah Donohue and Colleen Wahl
and sponsored by Integrated Movement Studies

Friday Mar 13, 2026
Friday Mar 13, 2026
Meet Julianna Hane and Elizabeth Stich - they bring us into the world of Aerial Arts, things like silks, trapeze, hoops, and open up the creative potential of working with these forms . Their new book Aerial Arts and Dance Improvisation brings creativity and Laban/Bartenieff Movement Analysis to a form of training not usually thought of as creative and so personal.
In this conversation we learn about their work as Aerial Artists and how L/BMA has opened new possibilities for them as movers.
Embodied People is co-hosted by Sarah Donohue and Colleen Wahl and sponsored by Integrated Movement Studies.

Tuesday Feb 24, 2026
Season 7, Episode 4: The Therapist Who Moves You with Erica Hornthal
Tuesday Feb 24, 2026
Tuesday Feb 24, 2026
Needing some inspiration to keep moving, and reconnect to your moving wisdom, meet Erica Hornthal - The Therapist Who Moves You. Erica is a Dance/Movement Therapist who's writing on movement as central to the therapeutic process has long inspired me. In this episode we discuss movement's potential to enrich our lives and sow the seeds of change within ourselves.
Erica is the author of Body Aware: Rediscover Your Mind-Body Connection, Stop Feeling Stuck, and Improve Your Mental Health with Simple Movement Practices, and Body Talk: 365 Gentle Movement Practices to Get You Out of Your Head and into Your Body.
Erica can be found on IG as the therapist who moves you.
Embodied People is co-hosted by Sarah Donohue and Colleen Wahl and sponsored by Integrated Movement Studies.

Friday Feb 13, 2026
Season 7, Episode 3: Movement Analysis and Animation with Leslie Bishko
Friday Feb 13, 2026
Friday Feb 13, 2026
Meet CLMA, Leslie Bishko, who integrates Laban/Bartenieff Movement Analysis with animation. In this unique discussion she dives into how she applies L/BMA to animation and teaching animation.
Leslie’s program, Laban for Animators™ empowers both animation students and professionals with the glue between animation and acting, through becoming “movement nerds,” and understanding how movement is expressive.
Biography for Leslie: Leslie Bishko, MA, CMA is an Associate Professor of 2D + Experimental Animation at Emily Carr University of Art + Design in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. Her work centers on the dynamics of expression through movement in animation, influenced by abstract experimental animation and Laban/Bartenieff Movement Studies, which are the focus of her research and teaching. Leslie is currently writing Laban for Animators to make the LBMS vocabulary mainstream in animation education and the animation industry. Leslie also teaches Pilates and studies flamenco dance.
Embodied People is co-hosted by Sarah Donohue and Colleen Wahl
Embodied people is sponsored by Integrated Movement Studies

Friday Jan 09, 2026
Season 7, Episode 2: Consent as a Pedagogical Practice with Nicole Perry
Friday Jan 09, 2026
Friday Jan 09, 2026
Join us as we talk with Nicole Perry about how her work as a intimacy director and choreographer has inspired the way she works with consent as a pedagogical practice. Learn to find an embodied YES, and an embodied NO in your own body. Learn how to translate this into activating the teaching and learning context.
Nicole has a new book coming out, published through Routledge. Care-full Creativity in Theatre and Dance Education: Consent-Forward, Trauma-Informed, Psychologically Safe Movement Pedagogy
Care-full Creativity in Theatre and Dance Education: Consent-Forward, Trauma-Informed, Psychologically Safe Movement Pedagogy is an interactive text that provides theory and tools for practice on creating a movement pedagogy of care.
This book brings together theories and tools of consent-forward, trauma-informed, and psychologically safe pedagogies and pedagogies of care, specifically for dance and movement teachers. It begins with power assessments for educators, then offers insights on the ripple effects of those powers in the classroom on students’ consent, agency, and psychological well-being. Each chapter includes reflective prompts for educators to examine their current classroom practices, as well as imagine new possibilities. Specifically in the second half of the book, chapters include multiple tools and/or templates for movement educators to use in incorporating new pedagogic practices into their classroom, including their syllabus, class design, and assessment. Reminders of the big ideas or highlight concepts conclude each chapter.

Monday Nov 17, 2025
Season 7, Episode 1: Embodied Learning and Knowing
Monday Nov 17, 2025
Monday Nov 17, 2025
What is embodiment? How do we teach it and know what we know? This special episode is a discussion between Sarah and Colleen as they discuss embodiment and the practice of teaching embodiment.
We also discuss teaching L/BMA in different cultures and how the material translates and how it may not. This is the beginning of a conversation we should have more and more of.
Embodied People is co-hosted by Sarah Donohue and Colleen Wahl
and sponsored by Integrated Movement Studies.

Friday Sep 19, 2025
Season 6, Episode 12: Kestenberg Movement Profile with Dr. Melanie French
Friday Sep 19, 2025
Friday Sep 19, 2025
In this insightful episode, we’re joined by Dr. Melanie French to explore the Kestenberg Movement Profile (KMP)—a groundbreaking system for understanding human development through movement. Developed by Dr. Judith Kestenberg, the KMP integrates psychodynamic theory with movement analysis, offering a lens into how early motor patterns reflect and shape emotional and psychological growth.
Dr. French unpacks the core elements of the KMP and its close relationship to Laban/Bartenieff Movement Analysis, illuminating how, especially how the frameworks of tension flow rhythms, tension flow attributes, and pre-efforts reveal the deep interplay between body and psyche.
Whether you're a clinician, movement professional, or simply curious about the inner workings of human development, this conversation offers rich insights into how movement patterns can inform therapeutic practice, self-understanding, and holistic wellbeing.
Learn more about Dr. Melanie French
Learn more about Kestenberg Movement Profile
Bio for Dr. Melanie French
Dr. French brings a wealth of knowledge to her work, including 10 years of working in both inpatient and outpatient settings as a clinician and dance/movement psychotherapist as well as a graduate-level educator in clinical training programs.
With a dedication to holistic healing, Dr. French holds expertise in mind-body approaches to wellness. Her lifelong interest in healing from trauma, anxiety, depression, and social phobias led her to professional training in multiple modalities, from Western academic approaches to Eastern medicine, as well as cross-cultural perspectives on health and wellness.
Dr. French has special expertise in developmental psychology and how we can understand what children need through observing their nonverbal behavior, and how what happens in our first 5 years of life is remembered by our bodies long after our conscious mind has forgotten! Her doctoral research explored the profound impact of rhythmic movements on emotional states and early childhood memories.
As a master trainer and educator in the Kestenberg Movement Profile (KMP) Body Movement Analysis System, Dr. French shares her expertise with a wide international audience, empowering others to understand how to support child development and healing of developmental traumas or difficulties at any stage of life.
She brings extensive training in an array of mind-body modalities, including hypnotherapy, dance/movement therapy, hatha yoga, energy psychology, EFT/tapping, kinesiology, mindfulness, meditation, Usui Reiki II, and creative arts therapies.
Embodied People is sponsored by Integrated Movement Studies and co-hosted by Sarah Donohue and Colleen Wahl

Friday Aug 08, 2025
Season 6, Episode 11: Yoga, Astrology and Pursuing Life with Jeremy Devins
Friday Aug 08, 2025
Friday Aug 08, 2025
This is another extra special interview session with Jeremy Devins of QuietMind Astrology and QuietMind Yoga.
Jeremy's work stands out for his remarkable skill of bringing inner wisdom to the surface through Yoga and Astrology. His life choices model following one's inner life. And his teaching, both yoga and astrology teach students to do the same.
In this interview learn about connecting to the body, and about philosphical connections between yoga and astrology.
He has a new mentorship program starting at the end of the month. ANd if you want a great online yoga resource QuietMind Yoga is FULL of classes and learning opportunities.
Bio: Jeremy Devens, founder of Quietmind Astrology. After 19 years of study, what began as a personal search for clarity became a calling to help others align with their true path. He created this workshop because he remembers how overwhelming it was to look at his chart and not know where to begin.
Embodied People is co-hosted by Sarah Donohue and Colleen Wahl
Embodied People is sponsored by Integrated Movement Studies

Thursday Jul 31, 2025
Thursday Jul 31, 2025
In this extra special episode learn about Rosemarie Onvlee. We first met Rosemarie via the beautiful motif cards she created. From there we became fascinated with her work and path. As a physiotherapist in the Netherlands she integrates Laban/Bartenieff methods into working with her clients towards healing.
Biography for Rosemarie Onvlee:
Rosemarie is a is physiotherapist based in the Netherlands. She teaches dance and movement classes to adults and 50+ people. She created Motif Symbols cards.
Buy cards at her website
Follow her in IG
Embodied People is sponsored by Integrated Movement Studies and co-hosted by Sarah Donohue and Colleen Wahl
Art by Erin Law

Friday Jul 11, 2025
Season 6, Episode 9: Hand in Hand Parenting with Pam Oatis
Friday Jul 11, 2025
Friday Jul 11, 2025
Join us for this gold star episode with special guest Pam Oatis, MD. Pam is a pediatrician who works with Hand in Hand parenting - a special program focusing on the cultivating of listening. In Hand in Hand, listening is practiced with children, ourselves and one another to form networks of presence. Pam is writing the book 'What Babies Wish We Knew'.
Pam discusses the basic practices of Hand in Hand and the impact it has had on the lives around her.
What Pam makes possible in writing, medicine and community models ways to practice being with each other and connecting to our deepest human wisdom within each of us.
To find out more about Pam, check out her website here.
Embodied People is sponsored by Integrated Movement Studies
and co-hosted by Sarah Donohue and Colleen Wahl
Art by Erin Law
